I have a REAL like new 1984 Grumman canoe. Its a 17, still highly polished, the textured inside floor is like new. This is in amazing condition just look at the bottom of it. It has two new 4 paddles with it. This IS one heck of an investment that can be passed on throughout your family for years. Id like to thank the gentleman who used to work for Grumman that educated me on this canoe.