Used Piland Ranch Cutter. 16.5 amp quot Seat, with Ralph Shimon in skirt three way rigging. Comes with back cinch. I bought in 2010 from Tim Piland, who had gotten it back on trade and had re fleeced the bottom, re wrapped the horn and checked everything over on it. Truly an awesome versatility cowhorse saddle. Well used, but everything on it is in perfect working order. Email me with questions.